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vryadliКак повелось последнее время, вернувшись из ЖЖ в кухню на 133 Скул Стрит, прочитал следующую главку из Фейнмана. И как повелось, лауреат меня не подвел:
Of course I was attacked, from all around. "Don't you think that order
can come from chaos?"
"Uh, well, as a general principle, or..." I didn't understand what to
do with a question like "Can order come from chaos?" Yes, no, what of it?
There were a lot of fools at that conference -- pompous fools -- and pompous fools drive me up the wall. Ordinary fools are all right; you can talk to them, and try to help them out. But pompous fools -- guys who are fools and are covering it all over and impressing people as to how wonderful they are with all this hocus pocus -- THAT, I CANNOT STAND! An ordinary fool isn't a faker; an honest fool is all right. But a dishonest fool is terrible! And that's what I got at the conference, a bunch of pompous fools, and I got very upset. I'm not going to get upset like that again, so I won't participate in interdisciplinary conferences any more.
( При всем почтении к Фейнману и восторге в отношении его мыслей? вынужден заметить, что он не провел вычисление до конца. Он должен был рассмотреть-проанализировать возможность того, что в данном контексте-аспекте pompous foolом был именно он. Тем более, что см выделенное в следующем фрагменте
And then one day -- I guess it was a Saturday -- I want to go up in the elevator, and there's a guy standing near the elevator. T
"No, no!" he says, "I'm supposed to push the buttons for you."
"What?"
"Yes! The boys here can't push the buttons on Saturday, so I have to do it for them."
Well, this really bothered me, so I decided to trap the students in a logical discussion.
My plan went like this: I'd start off by asking, "Is the Jewish viewpoint a viewpoint that any man can have? Because if it is not, then it's certainly not something that is truly valuable for humanity... yak, yak, yak." And then they would have to say, "Yes, the Jewish viewpoint is good for any man
"
Then I would steer them around a little more by asking, "Is it ethical for a man to hire another man to do something which is unethical for him to do? Would you hire a man to rob for you, for instance?" And I keep working them into the channel, very slowly, and very carefully, until I've got them -- trapped!
And do you know what happened? They're rabbinical students, right? They were ten times better than I was! As soon as they saw I could put them in a hole, they went twist, turn, twist -- I can't remember how -- and they were free! I thought I had come up with an original idea -- phooey! It had been discussed in the Talmud for ages! So they cleaned me up just as easy as pie, -- they got right out.
и оффтопиком (хм, можено ли быть троллем отностельно себя?!
One day, two or three of the young rabbis came to me and said, "We
realize that we can't study to be rabbis in the modern world without knowing something about science, so we'd like to ask you some questions."
They said, "Well, for instance, is electricity fire?"
"No," I said, "but... what is the problem?"
They said, "In the Talmud it says you're not supposed to make fire on a Saturday, so our question is, can we use electrical things on Saturdays?"
I was shocked. They weren't interested in science at all!
.,,,,,,,,
Here they are, slowly coming to life,
only to better interpret the Talmud. Imagine! In modern times like this, guys are studying to go into society and do something -- to be a rabbi --
and the only way they think that science might be interesting is because
their ancient, provincial, medieval problems are being confounded slightly
by some new phenomena.
Of course I was attacked, from all around. "Don't you think that order
can come from chaos?"
"Uh, well, as a general principle, or..." I didn't understand what to
do with a question like "Can order come from chaos?" Yes, no, what of it?
There were a lot of fools at that conference -- pompous fools -- and pompous fools drive me up the wall. Ordinary fools are all right; you can talk to them, and try to help them out. But pompous fools -- guys who are fools and are covering it all over and impressing people as to how wonderful they are with all this hocus pocus -- THAT, I CANNOT STAND! An ordinary fool isn't a faker; an honest fool is all right. But a dishonest fool is terrible! And that's what I got at the conference, a bunch of pompous fools, and I got very upset. I'm not going to get upset like that again, so I won't participate in interdisciplinary conferences any more.
( При всем почтении к Фейнману и восторге в отношении его мыслей? вынужден заметить, что он не провел вычисление до конца. Он должен был рассмотреть-проанализировать возможность того, что в данном контексте-аспекте pompous foolом был именно он. Тем более, что см выделенное в следующем фрагменте
And then one day -- I guess it was a Saturday -- I want to go up in the elevator, and there's a guy standing near the elevator. T
"No, no!" he says, "I'm supposed to push the buttons for you."
"What?"
"Yes! The boys here can't push the buttons on Saturday, so I have to do it for them."
Well, this really bothered me, so I decided to trap the students in a logical discussion.
My plan went like this: I'd start off by asking, "Is the Jewish viewpoint a viewpoint that any man can have? Because if it is not, then it's certainly not something that is truly valuable for humanity... yak, yak, yak." And then they would have to say, "Yes, the Jewish viewpoint is good for any man
Then I would steer them around a little more by asking, "Is it ethical for a man to hire another man to do something which is unethical for him to do? Would you hire a man to rob for you, for instance?" And I keep working them into the channel, very slowly, and very carefully, until I've got them -- trapped!
And do you know what happened? They're rabbinical students, right? They were ten times better than I was! As soon as they saw I could put them in a hole, they went twist, turn, twist -- I can't remember how -- and they were free! I thought I had come up with an original idea -- phooey! It had been discussed in the Talmud for ages! So they cleaned me up just as easy as pie, -- they got right out.
и оффтопиком (хм, можено ли быть троллем отностельно себя?!
One day, two or three of the young rabbis came to me and said, "We
realize that we can't study to be rabbis in the modern world without knowing something about science, so we'd like to ask you some questions."
They said, "Well, for instance, is electricity fire?"
"No," I said, "but... what is the problem?"
They said, "In the Talmud it says you're not supposed to make fire on a Saturday, so our question is, can we use electrical things on Saturdays?"
I was shocked. They weren't interested in science at all!
.,,,,,,,,
Here they are, slowly coming to life,
only to better interpret the Talmud. Imagine! In modern times like this, guys are studying to go into society and do something -- to be a rabbi --
and the only way they think that science might be interesting is because
their ancient, provincial, medieval problems are being confounded slightly
by some new phenomena.
