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vryadliОк-ецца есть такой чувак - Ли Смолин, теортик квантовой гравтации, ок-еццa он понаписал много книжек, а узнал я об нем сперва
из IEEE- Спектрума, это довольно приличный журнальчик, не желтый, буду, пожалуй новости из него регулярно обозначать.
Итак - гугл полон шуму об этом Ли Смолине, и среди прочeго он написал книжку, где говорит, что в науке и ваще-то темы-группы сaмовоспpоизводяцца слишком охотно, но в суперструнах, в связи с понятной спецификой, это зашло уж слишком далеко, вплоть до потери существенных атрибутов науки.
http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/jan07/4812
Цитаты:
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-If string theory doesn’t have the normal characteristics of a theory, does it run the risk of undermining what it means for something to be a scientific theory?
It need not, but it has... Once it became undeniable that string theory comes in an infinite number of different versions, which all give different predictions, some people, like Leonard Susskind and Steven Weinberg, unfortunately began to argue that, on the basis of other reasons—the mathematical beauty of the theory, et cetera—the theory was so compelling that we should consider this a situation where the rules of science should be modified
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What happens now is that a university department has one appointment to make at a time, maybe once every five to 10 years.
If a department has a group of three or four people doing x, whether x is string theory or superconductivity research, and a faculty appointment comes up, that group tends to hire in the area that they know. This is because they believe in what they are doing, and secondly, they and their friends and colleagues have students who need positions in this competitive environment.
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What has been the reaction to your book from the physics community?
Mixed! I do get a lot of very positive feedback—a lot from people outside the string community saying, “Thank you for saying this,” “Somebody finally has to say this,” “This is long overdue,” et cetera. From some string theorists, I also hear complimentary things, even from some people who say that their scientific judgment disagrees with me, but they agree about the sociological issues, the way that I have framed the question. I know that a number of people in the string-theory community are very unhappy about the book.
Some string theorists have approached it in a very professional way and communicated with me in blogs, private e-mail, and conversations... A small number of people have been nasty, both in things that they’ve written and things that they’ve said to journalists and other people.... you’re not going to solve problems by calling me names...
I hope it’s clear that the things I’ve been talking about—changes in funding practices and so on
из IEEE- Спектрума, это довольно приличный журнальчик, не желтый, буду, пожалуй новости из него регулярно обозначать.
Итак - гугл полон шуму об этом Ли Смолине, и среди прочeго он написал книжку, где говорит, что в науке и ваще-то темы-группы сaмовоспpоизводяцца слишком охотно, но в суперструнах, в связи с понятной спецификой, это зашло уж слишком далеко, вплоть до потери существенных атрибутов науки.
http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/jan07/4812
Цитаты:
=========
-If string theory doesn’t have the normal characteristics of a theory, does it run the risk of undermining what it means for something to be a scientific theory?
It need not, but it has... Once it became undeniable that string theory comes in an infinite number of different versions, which all give different predictions, some people, like Leonard Susskind and Steven Weinberg, unfortunately began to argue that, on the basis of other reasons—the mathematical beauty of the theory, et cetera—the theory was so compelling that we should consider this a situation where the rules of science should be modified
===========
What happens now is that a university department has one appointment to make at a time, maybe once every five to 10 years.
If a department has a group of three or four people doing x, whether x is string theory or superconductivity research, and a faculty appointment comes up, that group tends to hire in the area that they know. This is because they believe in what they are doing, and secondly, they and their friends and colleagues have students who need positions in this competitive environment.
========
What has been the reaction to your book from the physics community?
Mixed! I do get a lot of very positive feedback—a lot from people outside the string community saying, “Thank you for saying this,” “Somebody finally has to say this,” “This is long overdue,” et cetera. From some string theorists, I also hear complimentary things, even from some people who say that their scientific judgment disagrees with me, but they agree about the sociological issues, the way that I have framed the question. I know that a number of people in the string-theory community are very unhappy about the book.
Some string theorists have approached it in a very professional way and communicated with me in blogs, private e-mail, and conversations... A small number of people have been nasty, both in things that they’ve written and things that they’ve said to journalists and other people.... you’re not going to solve problems by calling me names...
I hope it’s clear that the things I’ve been talking about—changes in funding practices and so on
